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Here at Messy Jesus Business, a Catholic podcast and blog, we’re exploring the mess of radical discipleship and Gospel living. We experience Christian discipleship as a life of struggle as we advocate for social justice, live simply, serve others, practice contemplation and live in community.

Our ecumenical approach welcomes people of Christian faith traditions to be inspired, seek wholeness and reflect upon what it means to practice radical Gospel living.

Messy Jesus Business is founded and hosted by Sister Julia Walsh, a Franciscan Sister of Perpetual Adoration.

Our community of followers and contributors have walked with us on the journey of radical discipleship for more than a decade now through our Catholic podcast and blog.

Want to learn more about Messy Jesus Business and radical discipleship? Check out our mission, and meet our foundress, writer and podcast host Sister Julia Walsh.

Ellen Salmi van Cleef and Joshua van Cleef: Missionaries Rooted in Presence Messy Jesus Business

"The mess and the beauty are really tied together." – Joshua van Cleef Season 4, Episode 5 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, hosted by Sister Julia Walsh. LISTEN HERE: IN THIS EPISODE: In this episode of Messy Jesus Business, Sister Julia Walsh talks with Ellen Salmi van Cleef and Joshua van Cleef about how they became missionaries serving in Eastern Kentucky, and what being a missionary today is all about. "I feel really blessed that the way that I learned what being a missionary was, was really rooted in presence," Ellen explains, "in being present to people and in being present to God and God's voice in your life." They discuss how Catholic imagination challenges the ability for lay people to lead, serve and animate the Gospel in the ways that they are called. They reflect upon how serving in a rural environment invites people to contemplation, and how observing beauty directs us toward God. And, they explore the mess as a natural part of Gospel living,  and how God is with us in the mess of life and service. "The mess and the beauty are really tied together," said Joshua. "And that's my experience of being a missionary, especially here, and in my own life too. Because God's in here with me in the mess, then the beauty is right there too, and they're bound in some way." ABOUT THE GUESTS: Ellen Salmi van Cleef and Joshua van Cleef serve as missionaries in Eastern Kentucky. In 2016, they were installed together by the Bishop John Stowe OFM, to lead a small Appalachian parish in the absence of an ordained pastor. Ellen recently started serving as Associate Director of Evangelization for the Marist Brothers, and Joshua leads the parish as Parish Life Director. He also serves the diocese as the Director of the Peace and Justice Office. This May, Ellen and Joshua became parents to their first child, Joy. They live in a log cabin on 50 acres in the mountains, and share the property with lots of chickens, cats, and other creatures. Contemplative moment is a reading from Luke 4:16-21. MESSY JESUS BUSINESS is produced and hosted by Sister Julia Walsh, and edited by Charish Badzinski. Email us at messyjesusbusiness@gmail.com BE SOCIAL:https://www.facebook.com/MessyJesusBusiness https://www.instagram.com/messyjesusbusiness Twitter: @messyjesusbiz SUPPORT US: https://www.patreon.com/messyjesusbusiness
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Along with Catholic podcast host and Franciscan Sister of Perpetual Adoration Julia Walsh , our esteemed podcast guests explore a wide variety of themes within the scope of radical discipleship, including:

  • social justice
  • human rights
  • contemplation
  • ministry
  • community service
  • peacemaking
  • modern discipleship of Jesus

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